Episode 155

[FOCUS] Carbon Positive Farming with Kate Field

Episode Summary:  This segment is from a longer episode featuring Kate Field, a regenerative farmer from Tasmania, Australia.

A fascinating common thread unites our guest Kate and hosts Brian and Katherine: beyond their shared dedication to environmental stewardship, they all engage in regenerative farming with a focus on goat breeding.

To listen to the full episode go here.

To find out about Kate’s farm, check out https://www.leapfarm.com.au/

Resources mentioned in the episode:

Let’s Have a Think: Regenerative Farming

Josh Spodek Website

https://www.sacredcow.info/book

Footprint Network - Ecological Footprint Test

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Featuring Carbon Almanac Contributors Katherine Palmer and Brian D Tormey

Katherine is an Aromatherapist and Workshop Coordinator from Canada. Brian is a Real Estate Title Insurance Professional and Goat Farmer in the US.

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The CarbonSessions Podcast is produced and edited by Leekei Tang, Steve Heatherington and Rob Slater.


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Good day everyone.

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I'm Kate Field and I am from

Tasmania, a little town called

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Copping Tasmania is part of Australia.

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It's the little island off

the Bo Southeast of Australia.

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Wonderful.

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I am very excited to be here today

with you too, because we all have

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regenerative farming in common.

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I'd love to know your backgrounds

in regenerative farming.

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We can start with you, Kate.

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So my husband and I, uh, came

to farming in:

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only been farmers for 10 years.

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He started out as an ecologist,

so he was a scientist.

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He was working for Macquarie

University in Sydney at that

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time, and he was specifically

looking at the ecology of marine

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vertebrates in the Anta and sub anta.

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So pretty different from what he's

doing now in one sense, but very

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similar in that it's all about.

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Ecology ecosystems and how

everything interacts with each

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other in a natural setting.

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Uh, we were living in Sydney,

so that was living with, uh, 20%

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of Australia's population, and

it's not a town that's set up for

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transport and ease of transportation.

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We weren't really enjoying living

in Sydney, and we'd always dreamed

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one day that we'd have our own farm,

but we were also dreaming about

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having a commercial cheese operation.

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And, uh, it got to 2011 and we were at a

turning point in our, our lives and our

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careers, and we decided that we would

become commercial cheese manufacturers.

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And of course, to make

cheese, you need to have milk.

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And so we made a decision that

we wanted to ensure quality

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milk and to have quality milk.

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We felt that we needed to guarantee the

health and the happiness of the animals,

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which meant that we needed to buy a farm.

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So we looked in a various few

places around Australia as to

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where we wanted to purchase a farm,

and we settled back to Tasmania.

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We'd both been to university here

in Tasmania and decided to return.

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His parents had migrated from the UK

to live in Tassie, and so we were,

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felt like we were returning home.

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We found a fabulous patch of land

that fulfilled our needs in terms of

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proximity to the hospital because I

also work as an emergency doctor and

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proximity to the airport in case I

couldn't get a job back in Hobart and

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needed to fly in and out for work.

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And we looked at the landscape and

decided, uh, that the best mammal to have

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for milk production was gonna be goats.

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So we actually chose our livestock

for our landscape rather than

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buying a bit of land and forcing

it to do what we wanted it to do.

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Our value system, our um, ethos is

to work with nature and to utilize

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nature to be able to produce

really good high quality food.

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So that's kind of how we

got into it, through cheese.

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Wonderful.

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Thank you Brian.

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I'd love to hear about your.

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Farm story.

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How did you get into

regenerative agriculture?

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Sure.

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Well, so I grew up on a farm or,

uh, as we call it, uh, where I grew

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up in, in Oregon, on the west coast

of the United States, uh, ranching.

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And, uh, we raised cattle originally.

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Um, but then at one point, uh, we made the

decision, I don't, I can't say that it,

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it was quite as thoroughly thought out,

uh, as Kate and Ian's very methodical,

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uh, means of going through a, an analysis.

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But we did, we, we made a decision shift

away from cattle and move into goats.

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We have, uh, approximately 250

acres out in Oregon, my family farm.

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And, uh, it's, which is about the same

size as Kate's farm down in Tasmania.

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And we've got a herd of just

shy of a hundred cashmere goats.

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So they're not focused on dairy

production or meat production, but

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rather fiber production for the same

thing that you go buy in the stores,

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the cashmere that we, we all wear.

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Um, so that was, uh, Uh,

just about 10 years ago.

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So, Kate, I, I feel like we made the,

the dive into the world of goats and

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ruminants in that sense at the same time.

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Um, and it's been a fun journey for us.

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They are so much entertainment

and joy, um, while still doing

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great things on the landscape.

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Um, and sort of, which I think

we're gonna dive into and sort of

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talk about all the great things.

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And Katherine, you know, we, when we

all gathered together, I don't, I don't

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know that we all realized you also

have a history, uh, with, with goats.

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Tell us a little bit about that.

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Yes.

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So we had a, uh, regenerative herb

farm, uh, for about five years.

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Unfortunately, our lease was not renewed,

so we couldn't keep the farm land here is

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outrageously expensive and even to leases

beyond the capabilities of most farmers.

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But for those wonderful five

years, we had a, a regenerative

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herb farm and our goats were.

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Or they were rescues.

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So they were mostly pets, but they were

also fantastic fertilizer providers.

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They were our lawnmowers, they

were our blackberry control.

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They, they did all these wonderful

things for us that, uh, helped

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make our farm run smoothly.

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Honestly, don't think I could

have done it without our goats.

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So we've got three corners

of the globe covered here.

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We've got, you know, the, the east coast

of the United States and North America.

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We've got the west coast of North America.

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We've got Tasmania down near Australia.

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What a good collection of people.

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But I wanna come back and, and maybe

ask a little defining question.

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Let's talk about the word regenerative.

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What is, what does that really mean, Kate?

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I might hand it over to you.

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I think regenerative means different

things to different people, but

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for me, regenerative really means

that you are regenerating the

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soil more than anything else.

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So, different people might talk

about regenerating a landscape.

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I think of regenerative farming in

particular as regenerating soil.

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So every time you grow something in

soil, you're removing nutrition from the

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soil, whether that's to grow a carrot

or to grow garlic or to grow grass.

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And regenerative farming, for me is a

way of farming in which you're putting

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nutrition, specifically carbon, um, and

improving organic soil carbon through your

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methodology that you utilize on your farm.

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And so this can be applied to all

different farming enterprises.

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So could you tell us more about how you

improve your soil on your farm, Kate?

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