[FRIENDS] Change Is Here to Stay by Alpaca Tribe

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Hi, I'm Christina.

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In today's episode.

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It would like to share with you

an episode initially published.

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On our pocket tripe.

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What is all like a tribe.

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Okay.

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Who is Steve?

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Steve is one of the

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Steve is also an all

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Hence his podcasts, all pocket tribe.

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The episode we have selected

is change is here to stay.

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And this episode, Steve

explores challenge.

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How we approach change.

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And the difference between

things we have no control over.

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And the things we can affect.

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Even though it was

initially released in: 2022

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And didn't directly address

the topic of climate change.

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You'll find the content

is still relevant today.

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Because in our world.

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Aha.

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the only constant is change.

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This is the Alpaca Podcast

for all things alpaca.

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If you're an owner, a soon to

be owner, a want to be owner, or

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are just alpaca mad or love the

fleece, welcome to the alpaca tribe.

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I'm Steve Hetherington.

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Hi, Steve here and welcome to

the podcast for alpaca people.

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Good to see you.

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So change is here to stay.

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Thanks In fact, change

is the only constant.

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How many times have you heard

that or said that yourself?

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It's, it's one of my

little broken records.

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Uh, I was thinking about that this

morning and realizing I'm old enough to

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remember vinyl the first time around.

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And when you had a broken

record, it was stuck.

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It was damaged in some way and the

needle would go so far that it would

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stick and it would repeat the same

thing again and again and again.

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That's what a broken record is.

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Hmm.

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It doesn't work in digital, does it?

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Struge, how the world has changed.

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Partly this is brought about

by thoughts of the iPod.

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Apple's iPod is being retired.

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It's not going to be there later.

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It's still around at the moment,

but it's going to be disappearing.

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And you're listening to a podcast

because there was an iPod.

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They're all linked in together.

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It's a long story.

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Maybe share the link to where that story

is told about how podcasts got their name.

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And today I want to talk to you a bit

about change and things staying the same.

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So Cool.

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We need to learn how to be flexible,

how to pivot and adjust and do all those

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kind of trendy things that we talk about.

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So I've decided that I want all the

good things to stay the same, and

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I want all the bad things to change

and go away or be fixed or something.

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And of course, it's not like that.

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And with our alpacas, very much so, there

are things that we simply can't control.

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But there are many things

which we can influence.

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We can make a difference.

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We can adjust.

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But when you have a young creer, a

newborn, but in those first few weeks, the

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first month or two, they are just amazing.

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Amazing creatures anyway, but amazing.

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A crea is just such a

Ah, it does something.

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It touches you somewhere deep.

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At least it does for me.

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And I'd like them to

stay the same, please.

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I'd like them to stay

as crea, but they don't.

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In fact, they change so quickly.

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Have you noticed that?

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They change so, so quickly.

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Like children and weeds.

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They grow so quickly.

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Hmm.

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So, they can't stay.

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And actually, it wouldn't be

right for them to stay like that.

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Change can be good, but we do

tend to want to hold on to things

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and to keep things the same.

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And yet, change is part of

what we live with all the time.

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And we change individually.

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You, that's you, that's you, listener.

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I'm talking to you.

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And partly this is getting reflected back

from my, I was contacted by someone who

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wanted to raise the question of alpacas

growing old, but also us growing old.

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Sorry, I'm not old.

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I'm just older.

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And it's really important to think about

those things and to recognize that I

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say, I'm sorry, I don't want to grow old.

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I'd say you haven't got a choice.

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Uh, so with the alpacas, you

can't stop them from growing old.

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And so tomorrow is probably, Pretty

much going to be similar ish, mostly,

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unless there's a major change.

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Most of it's going to be similar and

the same as today or about the day

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after or next week or next month or

certainly next year, things will change.

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Things will have to change.

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And there's so much going on at the

moment, and there's the price of

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fuel, there's the price of gas and

electricity, and ah, and oh, yeah, we've

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got the war in Ukraine, and the silos

full of grain that they can't get out,

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and that's going to become a problem.

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Knock on effect, knock on effect.

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It's going to spread and it's going to

become an issue for the price of feed.

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What about how much hard food, the

pellets, we, different kinds that we use.

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A lot of that's wheat based.

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It's going to, prices are going to go up.

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How do we change that?

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We stop using it.

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Okay, so what are we going to use instead?

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Do we need to be using it?

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If we don't need to be using

it, let's just not use it.

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So, at times of year, you know, When the

grass is not growing, when the nourishment

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that your alpacas need is not there,

certainly in the UK, through the winter,

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the food needs to be supplemented.

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But it's a supplement, it's not

the main feed, it's a supplement.

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So what can we do about the grass

that's going to make things better?

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What can we do about

adjusting the hard feed?

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The amount or the type, and we're just

going to have to wait and see for some

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of the answers to what is going to

be available and how much it's going

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to cost and how much we can afford.

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The other things with hay, I'm

guessing that that is going to

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creep up a bit because the cost of

production of everything is going up.

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The cost of production of hay will

increase because the cost of fuel.

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is going up so much, so quickly.

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Now maybe it's going to come down

again, but it's going to be a

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challenging time in the future.

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Today, we can feel anxious

about that change, but we can't

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do much about changing it.

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Apart from preparing ourselves

to be flexible, ready for the

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pivot, ready for the change.

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So yeah, by nature, I'm not full of

anxious thoughts about the future.

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I'm sure it'll work out.

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I'm sure it'll be fine.

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We'll get by.

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I tend to be a bit more on that end of

the scale and I need to be a bit more,

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what are we going to do about this?

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How can we put things in place now, which

will mean we're in a better place later.

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And you may be on the other end of the

scale, where you're panicking about

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things now that haven't happened yet.

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And you probably need to go spend some

time with your alpacas and relax a bit.

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No easy answers, no easy answers,

but can we ask better questions?

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Always good to be asking good questions.

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And if we can work a bit at finding

the right question to be asking,

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maybe we can find a way forward.

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There's the climate crisis

that we're in the middle of.

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Oh, the, the UK announced

yesterday that within five

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years, It is likely that that 1.

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5 degree change barrier will have been

crossed, that the warming effect will

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have, will have passed that, and not

permanently, it'll probably drift back

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again, but, you know, five years, okay.

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So that thing that was further down the

line, kicking the can down the road, has

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now arrived with us and is part of it.

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It rained today.

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Wow, that was good.

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I got wet.

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It was nice.

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Uh, but it was proper rain.

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We've had a bit of rain just to wet

the ground a bit and feed the grass

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a bit, but this is proper rain.

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I'm seeing some little

changes in the, in the lake.

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I see some water coming in

far end, a little bit of white

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water coming through the rocks.

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And.

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it's been more persistent.

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And it was one of those,

I wish I'd put my hat on.

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No, no, it was beyond that.

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It was, I wish I'd put my waterproof

trousers on because my waterproof

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coat, it ran off and I got wet legs.

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Okay, I'm dry now.

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But this is something that we're going

to have to adjust to over the coming

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years is how the climate is changing.

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Not today's weather, but

the climate as a whole.

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Not easy.

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Can I control it?

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No.

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Can I influence it?

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Well, the weather, excuse me.

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Can you influence the weather?

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Not really.

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Can we influence our environment in a

way that says it'll be in a better place

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than it was if we didn't do anything?

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And the answer to that's got to be yes.

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We've got to be able to make changes

that are for the better, that don't leave

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things as they are, because they can't

stay as they are, but move things forward.

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So with our alpacas, what are we doing?

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with them, what can we do with them that

has an influence on how well they're

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going to be, how well they're going to

cope with the future that is coming.

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It's not here yet, not tomorrow,

probably not the day after, but

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coming to a place near you soon.

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Okay, so let's move away from the doom

and gloom and think about the change

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that happens, the things that we observe.

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One of the things about things changing

so quickly with the career that made

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me think about how much do we enjoy

the moment because we can be planning

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ahead, planning for change in a way that

means we miss the beauty of the moment.

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We don't start, stand and stare.

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We don't.

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sniff the breeze, shoot the breeze.

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Oh no, we shoot the breeze, don't we?

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We sniff the breeze as well.

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Uh, miss my dog.

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Uh, dogs, two of them.

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They'd got old and we, we lost them.

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But they, they used to stand and

stick their nose in the air and

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they'd be sniffing the breeze

just to see what was there.

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They'd sit outside the top of the

steps just near the house and they'd

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sniff to try and see what was going on.

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What could they determine?

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What could they check

their word missing out on?

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So spend some time.

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And I keep talking about that.

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Do you know why?

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Because I think it's important.

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So spend some time with your alpacas.

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That's another broken record bit.

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I know.

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So spend some time with your alpacas.

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Plan it in.

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Find some space in your calendar,

whether it's the weekend, whether it's

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a specific thing where you can spend

some time to stop and take stock.

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of your stock to look at your

alpacas and enjoy the moment.

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And we can have those

little five minute holidays.

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That's something that feeds us,

that nourishes us in a place

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that isn't to do with food.

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So spend some time with your alpacas,

enjoy the moment, and also reflect on the

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things that we can influence, the things

that we can change and see what we can do.

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I'm not sure what to do yet about.

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the dry food, the, you know, the pellets.

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I'm worried I've got to put

an order in for some today.

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Is the price going to be going up?

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I don't know.

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But I know it will be, if not

today, then in the future.

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So what am I going to do about that?

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Apart from wringing my hands.

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Ah, there must be an answer.

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I'm sure there will be.

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And we need to think about it.

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One of my thoughts, I'm sure

there's a downside to this

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somewhere, but I haven't worked out.

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It's one of my ideas that I

haven't put into action yet.

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Maybe I need to just get

on and do that as well.

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Was to buy some peas, some dried peas.

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Not for feeding the Okay.

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There's the flake peas,

the micronized peas.

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They're rolled and

crushed and dried quickly.

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And they get added in as an

extra supplement to their feed.

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But what I was thinking

of was the peed seeds.

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The ones that you plant

to grow pea plants.

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What if I got a big ass bag

of seeds, a big bag of seeds.

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And I went around sticking them in

the ground, just here and there.

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They're legumes.

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They are able to fix nitrogen.

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There's a combination of the, in the

root nodules and bacteria, and they

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work together and they fix nitrogen.

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And it makes the, the soil richer.

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This is regeneration.

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It's not just sustainable.

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It's not just using what we've got

and carrying on using what we've

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got, which is the sustainable.

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How can I carry on doing

what I've been doing?

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How can this be sustainable?

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So that I can carry on using the

resources and doing what I want to do?

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Well, What about the, beyond

that, to think about regeneration?

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What about regenerating the ground?

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And I'm aware, very much so, looking

at our valley, that that is what

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the alpacas are helping us with.

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They are actually helping

regenerate places and parts of

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the valley that we wouldn't be

able to do without fertilizers,

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without chemicals of some kind.

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And we don't want to use those.

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So the alpacas are actually helping.

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It's part of the regeneration of

this piece of land, which we have.

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responsibility for, we have control

of, we have not full control,

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but we have an influence on.

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There are things outside of our

control, but there are things that we

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can do that will make a difference.

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And my idea, I don't know

whether I should share it with

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you before I do it myself, but.

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was to plant some peas and just

see, this could be an interesting,

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because they'd love that, the alpacas.

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Can you imagine?

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Uh, Ooh, Ooh, what's this in here?

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And then the grass, they would

love the new leaves coming through.

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They, I don't imagine many of

them are going to get to the

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point of actually flowering or

producing peas, but you never know.

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And then they're going to self seed and

then they're going to grow a bit more.

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So it becomes something

that's good for the soil.

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It becomes something that's

good and interesting variety,

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fresh food for the alpacas.

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And, uh, it's an idea.

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It's not going to change the world.

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I know that.

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But it may have a little bit of influence.

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It may have a little bit of bringing in

some positive change that is worth doing.

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I think that's an idea I will pursue.

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And in fact, today, and now

that I've recorded it, I

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will have to do it, won't I?

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So I will order some pea seeds today.

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Assuming they're not out of season.

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Always act before your ideas expire.

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Uh, there we go.

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So we've been thinking about, it's

a bit philosophical today, I know.

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We've been thinking about change.

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Thinking about what we can

control, what we can't control.

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Thinking about we want the things

to stay the same and they won't.

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Thinking about the big stuff

that we have got no control over.

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The climate, the weather,

I can't change that.

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Certainly not today, but maybe there

are little things, less plastic.

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Is that a thing that's

going to change the climate?

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You know, one, one plastic bottle less,

is that going to make a difference?

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Well, if we all use one plastic bottle

less, if we all think about reusing, we

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all think about how we do things and the

way we want to do things in the future,

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then together we can make a difference.

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We can make change.

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So change is here to stay.

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Change is the only constant.

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Hopefully that's given you some food

for thought and maybe some ideas

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about food for your alpacas as well.

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If you've got any thoughts about all of

that, and I want to revisit this at some

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point as well, just that whole thing of

what's the impact on the environment of

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keeping alpacas positive and negative.

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I think most of it's positive,

but there are maybe some negative

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things that we can change as well.

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If you've got any thoughts,

I'd love to hear from you.

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Steve at alpacatribe.

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com.

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That's steve at alpacatribe.

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com.

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I'd love to hear from you.

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And we will see you again next

time when it may have rained

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again, or it may have stayed dry.

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Things might have changed

or they might be the same.

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If you can go spend some time with

your alpacas and smile and take a deep

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breath and stand a while and watch.

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Bye for now.

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This is The Alpaca Tribe.

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And I'm Steve Hetherington.

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